tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post3090404214081310058..comments2023-08-11T05:49:23.366-04:00Comments on Exploring Believability: SurvivalismJ. Sheahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10652255892382558843noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post-68725782285244721042016-12-29T05:18:49.549-05:002016-12-29T05:18:49.549-05:00Boo, it's not about being manly at all. It'...Boo, it's not about being manly at all. It's about creating a world where they have power, and justifying their world. Survivalists, if you watch the shows, they are really pathetic people, they turn to this obsession because they think it will give them power, they can make a difference, after the world ends, and what they do matters. People who think like this, see people as inhuman in order to kill the burglars. Stealthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00941643957776392745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post-69264777518902878142016-08-29T19:51:54.098-04:002016-08-29T19:51:54.098-04:00Stephy are you Jshea's girlfriend?Stephy are you Jshea's girlfriend?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00530149090739654931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post-12743127820681039502016-08-29T19:08:18.384-04:002016-08-29T19:08:18.384-04:00Why reply on an alt account Jshea?Why reply on an alt account Jshea?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00530149090739654931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post-7318655243094543762016-08-29T18:54:54.017-04:002016-08-29T18:54:54.017-04:00You're behaving like an obsessive troll, Wes S...You're behaving like an obsessive troll, Wes S. You couldn't let this thread go and chose to respond four months later with ad hominem attacks. You continued to respond rapidly and feverishly until your disturbing behavior was pointed out, and then you purposely waited five hours just to attack Shea again.<br /><br />I'm not sure what it is that drives this fervent need for you to embarrass yourself in seemingly desperate attempts to cut someone down, but I ask that you stop. I also suggest that you get some form of help, because you're obviously suffering and improperly dealing with your problems. I hope you can find some measure of peace within yourself.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07699836738688255338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post-25428139064652830302016-08-29T17:48:18.606-04:002016-08-29T17:48:18.606-04:00LOL nice pretentious stemlord ego you got there, M...LOL nice pretentious stemlord ego you got there, Mr. Degenerate.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00530149090739654931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post-14088351681526281452016-08-29T12:06:01.015-04:002016-08-29T12:06:01.015-04:00You'll notice "moral realism" is a c...You'll notice "moral realism" is a concept propagated by philosophers and not by scientists, anthropologists, or anyone else who actually studies data for a living. The fact that "moral realism" is considered a philosophical *position* should clue you into the fact that it's just as abstract and unprovable (i.e. subjective) as any other philosophy.<br /><br />Also, please answer the question: How you are responding to these comments so quickly if you didn't know that e-mail notifications exist?J. Sheahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10652255892382558843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post-47101635422702358342016-08-29T10:48:48.205-04:002016-08-29T10:48:48.205-04:00Its called moral realism you fucking degenerateIts called moral realism you fucking degenerateAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00530149090739654931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post-70052295264154013412016-08-29T10:12:53.319-04:002016-08-29T10:12:53.319-04:00If you've got "objective proof" of &...If you've got "objective proof" of "universal moral facts" I'd love to see them. The fact that you haven't offered them (and you displayed an OBJECTIVE failure to understand what "subjective morality" means) doesn't really sway my view. You're pretty overtly uneducated about a shitload of topics and at this point all you've got is responding "hilarious!!" in a sarcastic voice.<br /><br />Also: I get e-mail notifications when someone comments. I'd assume the same is true of you, unless you're admitting that YOU just sit on MY blog and hit refresh all day...J. Sheahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10652255892382558843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post-39172562169063075212016-08-29T08:53:20.473-04:002016-08-29T08:53:20.473-04:00LOL I love how you just act like there are no univ...LOL I love how you just act like there are no universal moral facts, and that your nihilism is some kind of indisputable truth. Hilarious. By the way, how do you keep responding so fast? Do you just sit on your blog and hit refresh all day?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00530149090739654931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post-13733339147930577872016-08-29T08:10:32.820-04:002016-08-29T08:10:32.820-04:00I hate to break it to you but there seriously IS n...I hate to break it to you but there seriously IS no objective morality. Again, it's really embarrassing for you that I have to explain things to you like you're a child, but all morality is based on subjective cultural values. And I can guarantee that whatever moral system you're about to name to try to argue against me has, itself, been used to justify "even the most heinous acts".<br /><br />The closest people have gotten to objective morality is religion (although really that's just subjective morality backed with assumptions of divine support that can never be proven). And if you're gonna try to tell me religion hasn't been used to "justify literally anything, even the most heinous acts", buddy, you're dumber than I thought.<br /><br />By the way: don't call people "degenerates", it makes you sound like a Nazi. Which is really ironic considering the argument you're now trying to make.J. Sheahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10652255892382558843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post-25622152621787929412016-08-29T06:00:08.839-04:002016-08-29T06:00:08.839-04:00Having subjective morality is the same as having n...Having subjective morality is the same as having no morality at all because you can use subjective morality to justify literally anything, even the most heinous acts.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00530149090739654931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post-72199356589717642832016-08-28T10:42:48.851-04:002016-08-28T10:42:48.851-04:00Nihilism just means there's no "objective...Nihilism just means there's no "objective" morality, not that there's no morality at all. It took you four months to come up with a line that mediocre? Jesus Christ, dude. Maybe you should have used that time to educate yourself a little.J. Sheahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10652255892382558843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post-11936579177177787752016-08-28T06:53:06.361-04:002016-08-28T06:53:06.361-04:00I find it funny how a degenerate nihilist like you...I find it funny how a degenerate nihilist like yourself tries to moralize works of fiction...to me thats hilariousAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00530149090739654931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post-26665184704925734432016-06-10T05:52:09.824-04:002016-06-10T05:52:09.824-04:00@Wes
In all fairness, the message might not have ...@Wes<br /><br />In all fairness, the message might not have been *intentional*, but it doesn't change the fact that it's there. There's a reason why Unfortunate Implications exist.<br /><br />http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UnfortunateImplications<br /><br />At least for me, I think most of the time, problematic tropes and harmful messages (I.e. dehumanization, toxic masculinity, trivialization/normalization of serious subjects into lighthearted entertainment, etc.) propagate through pop culture due to creators mindlessly regurgitating said tropes rather than actively condoning them.<br /><br />Usually under the pretext of "genre convention" or it makes for a fun story, and said problems are further compounded by fans who uncritically accept everything they absorb from pop culture as gospel truth, and in turn perpetuate the cycle by regurgitating said messages when they become creators themselves.Justin Wouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09824657522262594933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post-64420960650366889422016-05-31T16:07:45.509-04:002016-05-31T16:07:45.509-04:00Considering you're a dude who opened with &quo...Considering you're a dude who opened with "this argument is retarded lol" and you're now begging me incessantly to explain simple concepts to you, I really don't feel the need to.<br /><br />If you want tutoring I'm gonna charge you for it. You've exceeded your allotment of free interaction time.J. Sheahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10652255892382558843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post-49666039961990665902016-05-31T13:44:20.228-04:002016-05-31T13:44:20.228-04:00Maybe you should fight me irlMaybe you should fight me irlAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00530149090739654931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post-60141005734048484462016-05-31T08:06:04.804-04:002016-05-31T08:06:04.804-04:00...this question is addressed by literally, *liter......this question is addressed by literally, *literally*, the first article on this fucking blog. It's at the very top of the archive list. <br /><br />http://exploringbelievability.blogspot.com/2010/11/importance-of-believability.html<br /><br />Are you intentionally going out of your way to parade your ignorance at this point? Because if all you've got going in your life is writing comments demanding that I explain everything to you, maybe you should get a fucking hobby, dude.J. Sheahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10652255892382558843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post-69674827663190829222016-05-31T01:07:35.118-04:002016-05-31T01:07:35.118-04:00I mean do you honestly think that all fiction has ...I mean do you honestly think that all fiction has a political message and that interpreting it as a political message is the only *correct* way to analyze fiction?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00530149090739654931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post-10626205442393280072016-05-31T01:00:04.063-04:002016-05-31T01:00:04.063-04:00Why do you care whether fiction is believable or n...Why do you care whether fiction is believable or not? Who the fuck cares? It's fucking fiction, of course it's unbelievable. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00530149090739654931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post-7627047890142670862016-05-31T00:16:48.251-04:002016-05-31T00:16:48.251-04:00I did, repeatedly. Through every step of this tedi...I did, repeatedly. Through every step of this tedious journey you've displayed a lack of understanding and yet a dogged, insistent belief that I'm 100% wrong. There is a point where you, yes *you*, need to look at yourself and go: "maybe I just don't get this". I have explained this to you. I have literally *hundreds* of articles on this blog. It is not my job to sit you down like a five-year-old and explain every possible concept to you word-by-word.<br /><br />This isn't me explaining things badly. This is you being an idiot. It's not my job to fix that.J. Sheahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10652255892382558843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post-25579409280057390252016-05-30T23:27:19.910-04:002016-05-30T23:27:19.910-04:00So can you explain your point clearly and concisel...So can you explain your point clearly and concisely? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00530149090739654931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post-44806807723199359252016-05-30T14:27:39.051-04:002016-05-30T14:27:39.051-04:00Yeah, I can tell.Yeah, I can tell.J. Sheahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10652255892382558843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post-1695440024334192952016-05-30T12:28:48.088-04:002016-05-30T12:28:48.088-04:00I honestly don't understand what point you'...I honestly don't understand what point you're trying to make...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00530149090739654931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post-89909826441127435122016-05-30T11:31:23.012-04:002016-05-30T11:31:23.012-04:00"their heads would explode from the sheer amo..."their heads would explode from the sheer amount of contradictory messages present in the fiction they consume"<br /><br />Yeah, it's impossible for people to be hypocrites, ostensibly praising one set of values and then reveling in another. You've cracked the case. Self-deception is inconceivable, which means I'm wrong about everything. Good job.<br /><br />Also: The messages found in the majority of media are by no means as contradictory as you seem to think they are. Have you actually read my "The Birth of a Nation" article yet? Because there's a reason that people don't make movies *exactly* like that anymore, but also, there's a reason that they make movies that are *sort* of like that.<br /><br />It's the same reason that we don't have WW2 movies where the Nazis are treated as the good guys. For all your talk of "people don't care about politics" and "fiction doesn't affect you", if you made a movie where the Nazis were heroes, the only people who'd like it are neo-Nazis and creepo gamers. People say that the media doesn't affect them because, who cares, it's just fiction, but they also probably wouldn't enjoy a movie where the protagonists are Nazis who rape babies or whatever. Everyone has a line. Get over it.J. Sheahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10652255892382558843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3493946997489326661.post-88330571401344903252016-05-30T04:57:33.139-04:002016-05-30T04:57:33.139-04:00If people enjoy fiction because it caters to their...If people enjoy fiction because it caters to their bias, as you claim, their heads would explode from the sheer amount of contradictory messages present in the fiction they consume. People enjoy media for a variety of reasons, I suppose one reason people like fiction is because it caters to them, my issue with you is that you try to act like everyone only enjoys fiction because of its political meaning and if they say they like it FOR ANY OTHER REASON they're being intellectually dishonest or some shit. You think that fiction shapes the way we view things and we are incapable of distinguishing fiction from reality. Your thesis seems to be that we only like things when "the moral of the story" is in accordance with our own viewpoint. I disagree. Feel free to correct me if you feel I am strawmanning your viewpoint, because I am genuinely not certain what it is.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00530149090739654931noreply@blogger.com